Testimonials 13-22xx
Tuna Trigger...
February 17 2006 at 4:48 PM chuck
The availability of this unit and its good reviews
encouraged me to get into Crosman guns, without it i
would have remained a German and British gun snob.
Just put my second Charlie bob sear on the mountain
air 1377 20" barrel Roy sent. a trigger can't get
much better than this, a soft gentle squeeze and the
shot is launched. the scary part is that as light as
it is, the pull can be evenly further lightened into
pee-in-your-pantsville. Roy made this gun with his
trigger spring and guide setup, and as good as it
is, there is no comparison to the tuna sear. Thanks
especially to Steve NC for the ingenuity in
developing and making this unit.
Chuck
An e-mail received that I received 3/29/05
Bob,
The sear is all I hoped for and then some.
Seriously, on previous 1377 and 1322 guns I'd owned
I was never happy with the trigger pull. I gave up
air guns for a number of years because of the poor
quality pull and let off. No matter what I did or
had done there was never the feeling of "Yesss" that
you get when things are just right.
With your sear I got that on the first shot and then
when I got it dialed in just that bit it was sweeeet.
I mean I shoot centre fire and rim fire guns that
cost big time that while they have that yesss
factor, I've paid and paid and paid to get there.
This is just as good as they are and a hell of a lot
cheaper and simpler and quicker to achieve.
The simplicity of it truly amazes me. I was a bit
leery when I saw it on the web but hey anything is
worth a try. When I opened the packet and felt it
and looked at it. I thought hmmmm, like you said
there isn’t even a pivot hole; something this simple
can't work, can it?
Believe me it works! I am not the easiest person to
please where firearms are concerned but the sear is
as close to perfection as I've seen.
D. Hawley Fort Smith, NT Canada
13XX/22XX Sears - Charlie Da Tuna - Praise
March 28 2005 at 12:46 PM
Wow!!!!
If you don't have one. Get one!! Get one for every
gun that they will fit into that you own!!
My sear arrived last week while I was off caribou
hunting. Wife picked it up at the post office and I
didn't get around to the mail until Saturday and I
didn't get the sear into the gun till yesterday.
Took me all of 15 minutes to take out the old sear
and pop in the new one and get to shooting. Average
people should be able to do it in a lot less time
than that.
There is NO explaining the improvement in the
trigger pull. You truly have to experience it to
believe that a stock 1377 can feel that good. It is
magic. That simple.
Be warned the first time you pick go to fire your
gun with the new sear installed. What you felt
before has no bearing anymore. The inital tension
and take up you could or did apply before may well
now fire your gun. Crisp, clean, light and oh so
smooth. (Sounds like I should be writing a beer
commercial.)
After a bit of testing I did take about a 1/4 turn
out of the first stage and then tested some more.
Then took about a 1/8 of a turn out of the second
stage. SWEET!
I can no longer blame fliers on a poor trigger pull.
Group size off hand has been cut at least by half.
(I now blame all misses on the original Crosman
sights)
Charlie Da Tuna you done good. Great actually,
congrats on a great improvement. I'll definitely be
ordering another one for the custom 1322, this sear
was supposed to be going in it but it's staying put!
Slowhnds
Observations -13/22xx sear:
My sear was one of the cracked ones - BUT - I never
even noticed it until it was mentioned on the forum
- I doubt it affects function one bit.
The sear looks to be a marvelous little piece of
workmanship and construction - all in such a tiny
little part. The sear drops right in - couldn't be
easier to install - it's adjustable as you shoot the
gun easily enough with the right side grip off. The
sear is amazingly adjustable - many- many different
"feels" available - excellent.
All I had available was guns with shorter springs -
even though - the new sear works great - delivers a
real two-stage felt trigger even with the short
spring(s) - I say springs - because I swapped the
sear into several guns just to check it out. I think
it will work better with a stock spring - hard to
believe - but the sear is so adjustable - you need
the stronger spring to make the most of the
adjustablility.
Messing with the adjustments it is possible to get a
really light two-stage trigger - really shows
improved results pistol shooting. Finally delivers a
"real" trigger to these guns.
Really makes the "stock" 2240-style triggers seem
like total "toy gun" trash after shooting my guns
with the Charlie-Sear. You can get "used" to the
Charlie Sear in a heartbeat - but as soon as you go
back to a stock trigger after that - it becomes
glaringly horrible and you wonder how you ever put
up with it.
I tried installing the sear into a 1760 - and found
it doesn't fit - unless I did something wrong.
The only bad part is that I only have one Sear - I
need five or so. Any 13xx or 22xx I have without the
sear - is now just sitting and waiting for a sear. I
doubt any other money spent on these guns would make
such an affordable improvement-to-dollar
contribution to overall shootability.
I only tried the sear on gas guns - I will install
the next one on a 1377 - with the complete lack of
muzzle flip or recoil - the Charlie Sear in that gun
should be really quite amazing. As the trigger in my
13xx is really the only bad part of the gun anymore.
SO - when is the next shipment due?
Hoyt
For Charlie and the 13/22xx sears
March 3 2005 at 9:58 PM
Hey All,
Charlie's not just "da Tuna", he's "de Man!!" We've
traded a couple emails about the sear and he's just
a top-notch guy.
So, why should I keep a cracked sear? Why not just
make him give me a new one? Two words, innovation
and money.
Well, by my calculations, I suspect Charlie made
less than $0 on this first batch. Maybe the next
batch he'll break even and after that, it might be
worth some pocket change. I'm pretty comfortable
asserting Charlie's not going to afford that condo
in the Bahamas any time soon from selling sears.
Second is innovation. How many guys do you see
sticking their necks out and making new custom
parts? Not many are going to risk it and many of
those who once did, don't any more.
So, I'm not a nice guy. I'm really a selfish and
calculating manipulator. I want Charlie to be
successful and make it worth his while to continue
to experiment and make cool new stuff for me... Er,
us.
Kind regards
Mike
Charlie's new 13/22xx sear.....
March 5 2005 at 2:10 AM
Instructions..... I don't need no #$%^
instructions......
Got this a couple of days ago... finally got around
to putting it in tonight. One of the most
frustrating things I've done in a long time lol. The
kit came with the sear, & some instructions. Toss
the instructions, go to work. Charlie says 10
minutes to install.... I'd say more like 5. I did
take some time to moly up things while I was in
there. So, I put it all back together and..... I
have a one stage trigger. A long one stage trigger.
Ahhh... some adjustments needed.
Seeing the two adjustment screws, my lazer sharp
mind knew just what to do. A turn on this one, one
on that one, back this one out a bit..... etc. Now I
have a two stage trigger with a long first stage & a
15 pound second stage. More fiddling. Back to a one
stage trigger. An hour of this.
I had to walk away for a while.
Where are those instructions anyway?
Charlie clearly says what screw does what, & to make
adjustments no more than 1/8 turn at a time. So I
did. 1/8 at a time. Still not working right. I gotta
take the side plate off & see just what's going on
in there.
Seems I have one screw turned in way to far, the
other out so far it's not doing anything. Jeezus.
Ok, put the screws back to about where they look
like they should be.... but I'm just going to put
the side plate back on & hold it there with my thumb
while I adjust, 'case I have to take it off again.
Now, FOLLOWING the instructions, a little tweak
here, a little there.... perfect. A true 2 stage
trigger, light on the first stage with a definite
stop against the second stage, and (important to my
style of shooting), almost no overtravel. Absolutely
amazing.
So, put the side plate screws back in, give it one
more test fire..... I have a one stage trigger
again. DOH! This time, 1/8 at a time LIKE IT SAYS IN
THE INSTRUCTIONS I make a couple of little
adjustments, & it's back to perfect. I dry fired it
50 times or so to see if it would change.... not at
all.
If you can use one..... get one.
Bikerscum
13/22xx and SSP 250 sears !!
March 2 2005 at 5:49 PM
I received my Charlie da Tuna 13/22xx 2 stage sears
a couple of days ago and installed one of them on my
2240, first impression was WOW !, second, and as a
surprise, my groups were much better, I guess the
pre-sear swapped trigger affected my gun shooting
more than I thought due to more effort ?, all the
same I attributed my less than great groupings to
excessive muzzle flip (no that there isn't any flip)
however once I replaced the stock sear...voila , my
grouping improved dramatically, you gurus tell me.
The preset settings although good were not perfect
or should I say "to my liking", I proceeded to
further adjust the sear's screws and I like it a lot
better, the second stage, or creep, perhaps should
be a little shorter but I might have run out of
range, I'll keep experimenting.
I also have a couple of SSP 250's and although I was
told Charlie's sears wouldn't work on them, I
discovered that in fact they wouldn't, ah ,but wait
a moment, they wouldn't work with the SSP's trigger,
however if I substituted the SSP's trigger for that
of my 2240 then the sear would work, I like the gold
colored trigger from the 22xx series better anyway,
so now I've got to find me a couple of triggers and
in the process perhaps ad a widening shoe to the
trigger blade since it's a bit narrower than that of
the SSP 250's.
Manuel R
Lets see - Mac-1 vs. SuperSear....
March 2 2005 at 10:46 AM
...SO I can order a drop-in Sear from Charlie -
takes ten minutes to install - costs about $20 -
turns the twangy- harsh, mushy Benji trigger into a
clean two-stage - with a nice light let-off
(optional polishing makes it lighter still) - and
the scatter-gun is transformed into an excellent
bulls-eye shooter.....Or ...I can send/take my gun
or trigger parts to Mac-1, endure his evil customer
service nature, wait about 6 months, listen to him
tell me I don't know what I want or need, pay
God-knows-what for his "service" - and then I'll
have a trigger in my airgun that firearm shooters
might like......Hmmmmmm. That’s not a tough call. -
HV
Trigger heaven March 1 2005
Your sear is wonderful !! Installed, did some
adjustment and ..voila, perfect.
By the way your sear would work on the SSP 250 if
the trigger is changed to that of a 2240 (the SSP
250 trigger is somewhat different and obstructs the
sear, but when I put my 2240's trigger then it
worked).
Manuel Roman
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