New Gamo Trigger
By CharlieDaTuna
1/10/10
I
have put this page up because of the vast amount of
e-mails that I am receiving asking for advice and/or
solutions not only from here in the US but from
around the world regarding the new Gamo’s and the
new trigger assembly and it’s becoming very
difficult to answer all of them. I hope this will
answer most of your questions and be aware, this is
only my opinion based on what I have seen as well as
comments from those who have turned to me seeking my
thoughts and wanting my views and solutions. So here
goes.
It now looks like Gamo has expanded the use of the
new action and trigger block in more of the Gamo
lines. There are now quite a number of people that
have them and so far it seems that there is little
or no improvement to the Gamo and very little
positive being said about them. Most are quite
disappointed based on their comments to me. It's sad
because the older models could be TurboTuned and
made into a really good gun and the trigger could be
improved. That will be going by the wayside it
seems.
As every one knows, I have always been a big
supporter and promoter of most of the Gamo models
for many years and have always felt they were a
"diamond in the rough”. But.... not any longer. No
longer will you be able to make them perform like
the earlier versions. If tuned and lubed right, and
especially if TurboTuned, the previous Gamo's were
an excellent gun, powerful, a super shooter and
could be made to be very accurate but it won't be
that way any longer (at least not without a lot more
expense if at all). It won't be the way it used to
be with the Gamo's any more. The new ones will be
limited to a Lube Tune or SuperTune at best. It
might be much more prudent to go with a Chinese
clone.
If you are considering the purchase of the earlier
production Gamo I strongly suggest that you do so
while there are still some available.
I no longer encourage or recommend the purchase of
the late Gamo product lines if you intend to improve
it with either a TurboTune or upgrade your trigger.
A little info regarding the changes made.
The action has had changes made and it now requires
that the trigger be removed from the action to work
on the trigger. Previously, a lot of improvement
could be made without removing the trigger. Not so
anymore. It now requires the removal of the trigger
block from the action and has to be removed by
sliding the trigger assembly out the back of the
action. In order to do that, you must use a spring
compressor and back out the trigger/block assembly.
Caution: Do not attempt to remove it without
the use of a compressor as it can be very dangerous.
The trigger block and assembly is now made of cast
Aluminum, plastic and metal and far more difficult
to work on. Unless you are knowledgeable about
triggers, I suggest that you do not open it up as
some of the parts may be damaged. Little can be
accomplished even if you do open it up other that
polishing the contact areas in the Gamo’s and that
does not provide that much improvement. I do not and
will not provide a disassembly or reassembly guide
or diagram for the new trigger block.
The spring block, spring guide assembly is now a one
piece construction and the guide is made like the
cheaper Chinese guide that is not even a round guide
but rather a four corner guide and just a molded
piece of plastic. It is also a part of the trigger
block and all one piece. The trigger block is a
mixed bag and for all intent and purposes not any
better and in my opinion not as good as the older
versions.
My suggestion to anybody considering purchasing a
Gamo, if it's not the early model, give it a second
and serious thought. If I were ordering a Gamo, I
would ask the dealer which ones he has before you
place the order. If it's the Gamo with the plastic
trigger, I myself would not order one and check with
another vendor. If it cost a little more, it’s well
worth the difference. That’s just my opinion for
what it’s worth.
To answer a question from a recent post on the GTA
forum, "Is the new Gamo trigger a whole lot better
than the original trigger"? Answer: The new trigger
block is certainly not a whole lot better and in
fact, I feel it is far worse in design.
Question: Do you have or will you be making a
trigger for the new Gamo’s?
Answer: No, I do not have a replacement trigger for
the plastic Gamo trigger and will not be making one.
It would be too difficult to install and would
require a spring compressor and tearing the gun down
as well as the trigger assembly. Also, when
disassembling the trigger, it will be very easy to
damage the trigger parts.
Reworking the trigger would be difficult for the
above reasons also.
Question: Can I replace the new Gamo trigger with a
Chinese Gamo/Theoben clone trigger?
Answer: No, because it the rear of the action has
been also changed and the clone triggers cannot be
mounted. Also, if it could be done, you would need
to replace the trigger assembly, the retaining block
and spring guide, the spring block. Then you still
have the problem of being able to lock down the
trigger assembly.
Also, the beartrap linkage is not compatible.
NOTE FOR GAMO OWNERS: If you have a late
model Gamo with a plastic trigger and safety, the
GRT-III trigger will not work. If in doubt, check it
with a magnet. If it is plastic do not order the
GRT-III.
NOTE FOR REMINGTON GENESIS-SUMMIT-VANTAGE OWNERS.
If your gun has a plastic trigger, the GRT-III
trigger will not work If in doubt, check it with a magnet. If it
is plastic do not order the GRT-III for replacement.
I do provide an upgrade trigger them
HERE
NOTE FOR CROSMAN OWNERS. If your gun has a plastic
trigger, the GRT-III trigger will not work. If in
doubt, check it with a magnet. If it is plastic do
not order the GRT.
Looking at the gun you might not be able tell the
difference but if you take a magnet and check the
trigger blade and safety (or just the trigger blade
in some clones) and it's not metal, step back and
give it some thought.
The time has come to really look the other way and
spend a little more and consider the RWS or
something else at that level or buy something
Chinese. At least they can be tuned and have really
good results and a good trigger when done. . And if
you want to get a good Gamo, you had better get it
now before they are all gone.
A little about tuning the new Gamo.
Gene has had a couple of them in for tuning and is
considering not taking in any more of the late model
Gamo's because of the less than desirable
modifications that were done and not being able to
make the improvements needed to make them into the
shooters that the older models were capable of
whether by a Pro-Tuner or the do-it-yourselfer.
I have seen some of them that Gene had in and I
would agree with him and if I were still in the
business, I don't think I would work on them either.
You just can't provide results that you expect and
what the customer pays for.
Regarding the heart of the gun and tune.
There is no easy or simple way to make a truly
fitted spring guide for the late Gamo’s. A Delrin
block assembly could be machined but over time the
question of whether or not the cross pin would hold
up would need to be considered. I have my doubts
unless it were machined from steel. Both time
consuming and expensive to the point of not being
cost efficient.
It seems that the guide may be able to be sleeved
but that is a very poor approach to solving the
problem. A method that is questionable as far as
holding up long term and something that I would
never consider doing myself.
Neither Gene nor I have made a determination of what
spring would be best fitted to the guns to this
point. Then once that would be determined, a tophat
would need to be fitted to the spring and inner
piston.
So there you have it in a nut shell. I’ll probably
be adding more to and revising this as time goes on.
Thanks
CDT
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